If you thought the Time’s Up movement that everyone was making at the Golden Globes tonight was all about wearing black and putting a spotlight on activists, Debra Messing has some very pointed words for you. Or, more specifically, Messing has some very pointed words for E! News, which recently lost longtime host Catt Sadler—who quit after realizing that she was being paid half of what her male co-host was making. On the red carpet ahead of the Golden Globes ceremony, Messing stopped for an interview with E!’s own Giuliana Rancic, who explained that they were skipping the traditional “who are you wearing?” question in favor of “why are you wearing black?”—giving women a chance to talk about the Time’s Up initiative and the #MeToo movement.
Messing’s response was essentially the no-scope headshot of red carpet interviews, with the Will And Grace star turning the question on E! News itself by saying that she was “so shocked to hear that E! doesn’t believe in paying their female co-hosts the same as their male co-hosts.” She added that she wants people “to start having this conversation that women are just as valuable as men,” so calling out a network for failing to recognize equality while appearing on that network seems like a pretty effective way to do that.