Jerry Seinfeld still talking, even though Pop-Tarts movie came out like a month ago

Jerry Seinfeld is somehow still going this week, even though his Pop-Tart movie Unfrosted already came out like a month ago—an eternity, in the world of made-for-Netflix movies. Apparently invigorated by society paying serious attention to the things he has to say for the first time since The Marriage Ref, Seinfeld went on Bari Weiss’ podcast this week to express his feelings on—what else?—the “agreed-upon hierarchy” of post-World War II American society and the appeal of “dominant masculinity.”

Seinfeld agreed, in the interview, with Weiss’ assertion that part of the guiding philosophy of the ’60s-set Unfrosted—which contains, among other things, a scene that is literally Mad Men fan fiction, complete with Jon Hamm and John Slattery reprising their parts—was a return to that age of “style.” “I miss a dominant masculinity,” Seinfeld said, being careful, admittedly, to note that he doesn’t consider himself part of the list of “real men” he admires. (Including JFK, Muhammad Ali, Sean Connery, and, apparently, Howard Cosell.) “Yeah, I get the toxic thing,” he said with deliberate dismissiveness. “But I still like a real man.”

Seinfeld has been struggling with “hierarchy” a bit himself lately, most notably when his recent commencement address at Duke University was greeted with protests and walk-outs by people upset with Seinfeld’s support of Israel during the ongoing violence in Gaza. See also his continued assertions that “the audience is everything,” which contrasts with his frequent statements of unhappiness when members of that same audience doesn’t like some of the ideas he’s been expressing. (Weiss ties to get into this a bit in the interview, which we can’t, in good conscience, recommend anybody watch, but Seinfeld doesn’t really engage with the concept.)

Anyway, if you’re wondering what the deep political and psychosexual subtext of Jerry Seinfeld’s Pop-Tarts movie was, well, now you know.

[via THR]